Colonel Robert Green Ingersoll served in the Civil War in command of the 11th Illinois Cavalry Regiment, which saw action in the Battle of Shiloh. He was an agnostic: "I do not say there is no God. I do not know. As I told you before, I have travelled but little—only in this world." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, edited by Roger E. Greeley, p. 38). He was unafraid: "I do not fear death any more than I fear sleep." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, p. 48). . . .though undoubtedly he has found cause to modify that position since then. Prior to his death in 1899 he travelled widely across the country speaking against the Christian faith. His ammunition was mainly those familiar 'Bible contradictions' heard from atheists, liberals, and modern-day Catholics. Are these conundrums insoluble? |
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Bible DifficultiesThese are, not contradictions, but assertions and circumstances found in the Bible deemed laughable or problematic by atheists, liberals, and some Catholics of the present day: |
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According to Colonel Ingersoll, the New Testament is demonstrably fake because it's written in Greek, whereas the apostles can have known only Hebrew (never mind that the vernacular language of that time and place was Aramaic, not Hebrew): "We have, I say, a Christian system, and that system is founded upon what they are pleased to call the 'New Testament.' Who wrote the New Testament? I do not know. Who does know? Nobody. We have found many manuscripts containing portions of the New Testament. Some of these manuscripts leave out five or six books—many of them. Others more; others less. No two of these manuscripts agree. Nobody knows who wrote these manuscripts. They are all written in Greek. The disciples of Christ, so far as we know, knew only Hebrew. Nobody ever saw so far as we know, one of the original Hebrew manuscripts." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, What We Must Do to be Saved). The New Testament was indeed written by Jewish authors, with the possible exception of Luke. Hmmm... what other first century literature is written in Greek by Jewish authors? Josephus' histories and Philo Judaeus' voluminous writings: basically, the Jewish literature extant from the first century. An apocryphal work without which there is no 'Biblical' flat-earthism, 'The Book of Enoch,' was conserved by the Ethiopian Church, yet its original language is Greek. What was taught at Gamaliel's school, where Paul studied? "But was Grecian Wisdom proscribed? Did not Rab Judah say that Samuel stated in the name of R. Simeon b. Gamaliel: '[The words] Mine eye affected my soul because of all the daughters of my city [could very well be applied to the] thousand youths who were in my father's house; five hundred of them learned Torah and the other five hundred learned Grecian Wisdom, and out of all of them there remain only I here and the son of my father's brother in Asia'?— It may, however, be said that the family of R. Gamaliel was an exception, as they had associations with the Government. . ." (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Baba Kamma, 83a.). Tell me again what is so strange about a book written in Greek by a Hebrew author? Flat EarthThis 'Bible Difficulty' is so strenuously insisted upon by atheists, liberals and modern Catholics as to merit its own category: "In the dear old religious days the earth was flat—a little dishing, if anything—and just above it was Jehovah's house, and just below was where the Devil lived. God and his angels inhabited the third floor, the Devil and his imps the basement, and the human race the second floor." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, p. 66). The Bible, they allege, teaches that the earth is flat. The proof for this consists in the use of idioms such as 'ends of the earth' which are still widely used in the present day by speakers who certainly do not believe the earth is flat: |
According to Colonel Ingersoll, the Bible itself positively states that the earth was flat. Unfortunately, no one has yet been able to discover where this occurs, nevertheless they are sure of it! Colonel Ingersoll accuses, not only the medieval church, but the Bible itself of flat-earthism, with how much merit we have seen. The Bible refers, for instance, to the 'deeps.' What does this mean? Perhaps the reader might think of the depths of the sea. This is perfectly sensible; but what does it have to do with any flat earth? At this point, the 'Book of Enoch' comes to the rescue, or perhaps 'Enuma Elish' or some such, providing a Rosetta Stone, a table of equivalences such that the Bible language can be translated to some never-never land construct, where the 'deeps' are something no one has ever seen or interacted with, or possibly could. If you just say, 'but I thought we were talking about the Bible,' that's the end of it: |
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Some of the time Colonel Ingersoll seems to have a realistic appreciation of Copernicus' achievement. Copernicus introduced heliocentrism versus the geocentric Ptolemaic system. This caused controversy, though both systems teach a rotund earth. Some of the time he falls in with the internet atheists you encounter nowadays, who have not one clue in the world, and praise the great explorers for their defiance of 'the Church,' which supposedly taught that the earth was flat: "I believe it was Magellan who said, 'the church says the earth is flat; but I have seen its shadow on the moon, and I have more confidence even in a shadow than in the church.' On the prow of his ship were disobedience, defiance, scorn and success." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, Lectures of Robert Ingersoll, Lecture on Individuality, An Arraignment of the Church). The Catholic Church championed Ptolemy's system of astronomy, even after it had outlived its usefulness, because she had fallen in love with the pagan philosopher Aristotle, one of the architects of Ptolemy's geocentric astronomy. 'The Church' did not ever tell Magellan "the earth is flat," because their beloved Aristotle taught that it was round. Thomas Aquinas, in the Middle Ages, had synthesized a Grand Theory of Everything, joining such elements of Biblical salvation as could survive translation into Aristotelian psychology with Aristotle's physics and astronomy. The church was so attached to this grand synthesis they could not let go, even when the Protestants objected to its distortions of salvation doctrine, and the astronomers objected to its outmoded geocentric astronomy. As it happens, Ptolemy's system features a round earth: |
Colonel Ingersoll states positively, as fact, that in the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church condemned, as heretics, any who did not believe the earth was flat: |
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It's easy enough to think that Ingersoll must have been a shameless liar to suggest that the medieval church ever condemned, as heretics, persons who believed the earth was round. This would mean they must have persecuted their own fair-haired son, Thomas Aquinas, who combined Ptolemaic astronomy with Bible revelation into, it was hoped, a harmonious whole. Thomas takes it for granted that the earth is round: "Sciences are differentiated according to the various means through which knowledge is obtained. For the astronomer and the physicist both may prove the same conclusion: that the earth, for instance, is round: the astronomer by means of mathematics (i.e. abstracting from matter), but the physicist by means of matter itself." (Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, First Part, Question 1, First Article, Reply to Objection 2). But Colonel Ingersoll did not himself invent the notion that Magellan and Columbus discovered that the earth was round, no one previously having suspected such a thing. This goes back to John William Draper, whose motives are disputed. It used to be widely taught in American schools. It's totally false. But mastering Ptolemaic astronomy is genuinely difficult. Comprehending the subject matter was probably simply beyond the good Colonel. He very well may have believed it himself. Ingersoll did jump in with both feet, though. Whatever can be said about the jumble Colonel Ingersoll makes of ancient astronomy, history it isn't. Unfortunately, the ready availability of this material on the internet has immortalized it; the youngsters encountering for the first time the information that Ferdinand Magellan discovered the earth is round, or rediscovered this, it may be, after long centuries during which the Catholic Church taught it was flat, are impressed, as no literate person can be. |
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Part of what's going on here is that they're conflating the controversy between Copernicus' heliocentrism and then then-widely accepted geocentric Ptolemaic system of astronomy, with imagined controversies over flat-earthism. Both Ptolemy's astronomy and Copernicus' are systems of scientific astronomy with high predictive value. Neither system proposes a flat earth. Neither Columbus nor Magellan contributed much to the debate on the merits of the Copernican system versus the Ptolemaic. This is more understandable when you realize Columbus sailed in 1492, while Copernicus' magnum opus, De Revolutionibus, was not published until 1543. Ferdinand Magellan, who did not himself complete the circumnavigation of the globe, having been killed in the Philippines, nevertheless demonstrated its feasibility, and surviving members of the crew did achieve the feat. This feat does indeed demonstrate that the earth is a globe, or if not a globe, perhaps a cylinder. Part of what went awry here is perhaps the assumption that a scientific revolution must proceed by sweeping away baseless superstitition and replacing enforced assent to absurdities with open-eyed facing of the facts. But Copernicus did not exactly do that. Your daily experience does not tell you that the solar system is heliocentric. It doesn't even tell you that the earth is round! There are clues, bread crumbs scattered about; Copernicus' system was a better fit with the phases of Venus than had been the Ptolemaic system. It would appear there is no rewriting of history too bold for the atheists to venture. Meanwhile, heliocentrism vs. geocentrism is a little bit recondite, and people tend to get confused when they try to remember which it is they are supposed to be defending, or how they know that the winning side is the correct one. This controversy about the motion of the earth is an old one; the question of heliocetrism was raised in antiquity, but for a variety of reasons did not become the dominant view. Pythagoras was possibly a heliocentrist; it depends on how the reader interprets his 'central fire,' which some interpreters take to be the sun, while others suggest the visible sun reflects the central fire: "All the others say that the Earth is at rest. But Philolaus the Pythagorean says that it revolves round the fire in an oblique circle, in like manner as the Sun and Moon." (Eusebius of Caesarea. Eusebius of Caesarea: Praeparatio Evangelica (The Preparation of the Gospel) Book XV, Chapter LVIII): |
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"Upon the limbs of unborn babes this fiendish God put the chains of slavery. I hate him." (Robert G. Ingersoll, Lectures of Robert Ingersoll, Reply to Rabbi Bien). How is it that a book, which according to Colonel Ingersoll promotes slavery, played such an important role in the movement to abolish slavery?: |
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It's not uncommon for war-time combatants to claim that God is on their side. But surely both cannot make such a claim, with any plausibility, while doing all in their power to annihilate one another. The parties to World War I all claimed to have taken the field in God's defense, inviting cynical denial of all such claims. The scalawags of the Confederacy did make the claim, at least those who were not openly irreligious, like Jubal A. Early. As Ingersoll cannot have been unaware, the Union made the same claim for itself. Ingersoll's assumption that you can disprove theism by focusing on one of these claims,— that made by the bad guys,— while ignoring a similar claim made by the good guys,— is transparently bad logic. That the God of Battles actually favored the losing side of the combat lacks all plausibility. That the God of the Bible loves slavery and injustice is as wrong as wrong can be. That the God of the Bible believes blacks to be inferior to whites, the foundation stone of the Confederacy, is fiction pure and simple. Yet this transparent fiction entered into the 'Lost Cause' mythos, and colored people's perceptions for generations. Colonel Ingersoll's own father, John Ingersoll, was an abolitionist Congregationalist minister and associate of Charles Finney. What family dynamics caused him to effectively erase the movement in which his own father had been a participant I can't say. One must assume his own abolitionist sentiments were a heritage passed on to him by his father, yet his anti-slavery rhetoric seems to assume that people like his father don't exist. In his youth he seems to have described himself as a Deist, later as an agnostic, which is a word addressing knowledge. Agnostics do not know whether there is a god or not, but do not serve any such god any more than do atheists, who are somewhat more certain on the matter. When he raised a regiment and volunteered to lead it in the Civil War, it was presumably as a Deist. Moses freed thousands upon thousands of slaves, and enslaved none, other than the thief unable to make restitution. Where in the Bible is there breathed the slightest hint that Black folk are inferior to white folk? That was the foundation stone of the Confederacy, the cornerstone of the new republic, according to its own founders: |
Where is any notion of African racial inferiority found in the scriptures? It's absent altogether! Yet this notion was the foundation stone of the Confederacy, according to Alexander Stephens, its vice president. It's high time this atheist scam stopped dead in its tracks, on grounds it is fraudulent. The Bible does not promote racism nor injustice. Incidentally, they've slapped a new coat of gilt paint on St. Gaudens' magnificent equestrian statue of William Tecumseh Sherman, and the results are stunning: Makes you wonder why there is still any confusion on this point. Wealth and PovertyColonel Ingersoll was not impressed with Christian morality: His dissatisfaction with Biblical morality was radical, going right back to the source: The precepts of Christian morality he would discard include such minor matters as the opposition many Christians express to dancing and card games: "Why should we postpone our joy to another world? Thousands of people take great pleasure in dancing, and I say, let them dance. Dancing is better than weeping and wailing over a theology born of ignorance and superstition. . .I believe in cards and billiards. No one should fail to pick up every jewel of joy that can be found in his path." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, page 50). This is a common theme with atheist and agnostic ethics. They say, 'You can be good without God.' They ought to add a codicil, 'You will of course have to redefine what "good" means.' Paul's principle, "We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves." (Romans 15:1), never makes the transition to atheist ethics. Gambling is a harmless pastime, and those who think there's something wrong with it and the ruined lives it leaves in its wake just don't want you to have fun: "If the ministers had their way, there would be no form of human enjoyment except prayer, signing subscription papers, putting money in contribution boxes, listening to sermons, reading the cheerful histories of the Old Testament, imagining the joys of heaven and the torments of hell. The church is opposed to the theater, is the enemy of the opera, looks upon dancing as a crime, hates billiards, despises cards, opposes roller-skating, and even entertains a certain prejudice against croquet." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, p. 64). A devoted family man, Colonel Ingersoll was less impatient with monogamy that his modern-day intellectual heirs: "I believe in marriage, and I hold in utter contempt the opinions of those long haired men and short haired women who denounce the institution of marriage." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, p. 57). Whether because he was a sentimental softy who loved his wife and daughters, or because monogamy really can be integrated with his materialistic world-view, he is on the same page as the church on this point: "The marriage of one man to the one woman is the citadel and fortress of civilization." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, p. 57). On one very significant point he disliked Biblical morality, and that is the question of wealth and poverty. Colonel Ingersoll was active in Republican Party politics throughout his life. His nemesis was this man, William Jennings Bryan: |
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Bryan stood for everything Colonel Ingersoll disliked. Bryan was a Christian, and he wanted the government to help the poor, simply because they were poor. Though he supported laws to limit working hours and otherwise improve the circumstances of the laboring class, Colonel Ingersoll was less convinced of the merits of government intervention in the private economy: "I am a believer in individuality and in each individual taking care of himself. I want the government to do just as little as it can consistently with the safety of the nation." (Colonel Robert Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, p. 39). In the popular vote, Colonel Ingersoll lost the public over the theological question; most Americans are not now agnostics. However, he ultimately won big on the political question: most Americans who now call themselves evangelical Christians, while they share William Jennings Bryan's faith, most emphatically do not share his politics. Is this result correct and consistent with the Bible? |
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He found the torments of Hell particularly obnoxious: "The doctrine of eternal punishment is the most infamous of all doctrines—born of ignorance, cruelty and fear. Around the angel of immortality Christianity has coiled the serpent. Upon Love's breast the church has placed the eternal asp." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, pp. 44-45). There is a progression here, like a man doggedly sawing off the bough of a tree upon which he is perched. The universalists, believing deeply that God is love, dispute what is taught about Hell by the same Bible which teaches that God is love. The next generation, among whom Robert Ingersoll is numbered, do not even believe anymore that God is love, though they still cling with a certain nostalgia to those precepts of their Christian upbringing without which they find life unthinkable. Their children don't even have that, and the door is open to all the horrors of the twentieth century. Resurrection was a particular stumbling-block. Colonel Ingersoll could not understand how God, who made Adam from the dust, could reconstitute a human being who had died and whose remains had suffered damage: It would seem that Colonel Ingersoll demanded the resurrected body be comprised of the very same atoms of which it was comprised in temporal life before it can be identified as belonging to the same person: "I suppose that I believe that the atoms that are in me have been in many other people and in many other forms of life, and I suppose at death the atoms forming my body go back to the earth and are used in countless forms. These facts, or what I suppose to be facts, render a belief in the resurrection of the body impossible to me." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, page 48). What has come to shipwreck here is reductive nineteenth century materialism, which posits atoms and the void as the ultimate reality, banging into the experience of the perseverance of personal identity. Colonel Ingersoll himself was not comprised of the same atoms before his (no doubt) very substantial lunch as afterwards; new material is continually added to the body, unneeded material discarded. If the very same atoms are required, then Colonel Ingersoll is not the same man before lunch as after. He is looking in the wrong direction to discern what makes a human being who he is and not another; it's not the atoms. |
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Build on SandColonel Ingersoll was a believer in 'scientism.' He saw the physical sciences bringing in a new dawn of enlightenment, forcing out the darkness of the old superstitions. What solid, lasting things had this faith brought him? The conviction that matter is indestructible: |
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Colonel Ingersoll did not survive into the twentieth century to see when they dropped that bit about matter being indestructible. Science, like capitalism, thrives on creative destruction. Where does that leave you when you have founded your life upon a moving rock, groping for floating, unstable certainties about the world? Whose "crowning glory" is it to discover something that isn't so, namely the indestructibility of matter? That's been phased out, replaced with E=MC2. So what sort of principle was that to live by, when it never was so? When God breaks into history to reveal His word, here at last is something immune from the ravages of time: "For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven." (Psalm 119:89). God's words do not appear plausible today, ridiculous tomorrow, as do the certainties of science. God is not constrained by time nor is even subject to time: |
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"If God governs this world, if he builds and destroys, if back of every event is his will, then he is neither good nor wise. He is ignorant and malicious." (Colonel Robert G. Ingersoll, The Best of Robert Ingersoll, page 36.) Just a ManLike most atheists and agnostics, Robert Ingersoll insisted that Jesus was a mere man: |
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No doubt the Bible does teach that Jesus was a man:
For good measure it teaches also that He is God: |
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