Filthy Talk



I said to the pastor, "I hear we're going to get snow. He replied, 'we don't use profanity in church.' Where did he get that idea?:


Filthy Speech Widow's Son
Cursing In Vain
Ogden, Utah Pied Piper


Filthy Speech

What does God think about filthy speech? He said no:



  • “But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.”
  • (Colossians 3:8).






God wants His people to watch their mouths: “I said, 'I will guard my ways, lest I sin with my tongue; I will restrain my mouth with a muzzle, while the wicked are before me.'” (Psalm 39:1).There are plenty of other verses which enlarge on this theme:

"But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; *neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks." (Ephesians 5:3-4).

"Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers." (Ephesians 4:29).

Are these instructions ambiguous? Does anyone, seriously, have a hard time understanding what it is that God wants us to do, and not do?

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Jesus Christ Pantocrator





Widow's Son

They used to tell of the widow, anxious and distressed when her young son found a job spending the summer working at a logging camp. Would those rough characters make fun of her devout son for not conforming to their ways? She fretted and prayed her way through the summer; then, when at last her baby came home, she asked him, 'How'd it go, son? Did that rough crowd mock and ridicule you for being a Christian?' 'Don't worry, Ma,' he confidently replied. 'They never found out.' Those who have encountered the Moscow, Idaho tribe, whether on the internet or in real life, can testify to that. How are they different from the world? They aren't. And that's the selling point.

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Cursing

Another kind of prohibited speech is cursing:



  • “But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so. Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening? Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.”
  • (James 3:8-12).




Sometimes we carelessly use 'cursing' of any kind of speech God dislikes, for example, obscene speech, not only formal 'cursing.' But that's ruled out as well. These categories are different, but it's easy to see why they get lumped together, because those who fond of one are likely to do the others as well.

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In Vain

God forbids taking His name in vain:



  • “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.”
  • (Exodus 20:7).




This would include, not only swearing in God's name to tell the truth in a court of law and then failing to do so, but also the teeny-bopper's repeated 'Oh, my God' which doesn't signify much of anything.

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Ogden, Utah

There's an outfit out in Ogden, Utah, which, incredibly enough, refers to itself as a church. One of their internet personalities makes a habit of referring to women as 'ho's.' Not, as in 'the paddy wagon disgorged the ho's arrested during the night;' those, at least, might reasonably be suspected of solicitation. No, the 'ho's' to this crew are college-educated women. This influencer is called by his flatterers the Christian Andrew Tate, a title he likes very much and likes to retweet. He is a lot like Andrew Tate, except he's much shorter. Listening to this crew is like dunkinig your head in the septic tank.

How do they rationalize their behavior, over against God's plain command not to do that? They are part of the eco-system revolving around Douglas Wilson, a PaleoConfederate who operates a cult in Moscow, Idaho. When confronted with plain scriptural commands to knock it off, what they do, and this is very much their normal way of operation, is to traverse scripture from one end to the other, looking for individuals who have not, at all times, arguably kept the cited instructions to the letter. And what does it mean if there are? Well, it means God cannot seriously have meant the instructions in the first place! It means there is no law, do as you please; God cannot possibly object to what people actually do.

This way of reading the scriptures goes back to Robert Lewis Dabney, one of their favorite Bible teachers. There were scriptures which were, to say the least, inconvenient to him, like "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing." (Exodus 21:2). He had committed himself to defending Southern slavery, so anything that raised a question mark over slavery was an embarrassment. And their protocol at that point is to look for loop-holes, look for non-conforming instances, look for exclusions, even if you have no reason to think the loop-holes might apply to your case. When the slave traders went to Africa, they were the foreigners, not the merchandise they were buying, so how can any exclusion of foreigners from Moses' protective umbrella apply to them? It certainly doesn't, but the point is that there is an exclusion, and so God cannot seriously have meant what He said in the first place.

How does this apply to filthy language? Some prophets sometimes use colorful language. Therefore, anything goes. What, are you a prophet? The logic is, anything God does, we can do, too. Obliterate entire populations? Whee!

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Pied Piper

As mentioned above, Douglas Wilson is the great trail-blazer who discovered that Christians can drink, curse, and raise trouble just as well as the rest of them. He is always talking about his experience, growing up, of not sitting at the cool kids' table. This approach appeals, of course, not to new converts who are zealous for the things of the Lord, but to children raised in Christian homes, who never chose these disciplines for themselves, and frankly don't see the point. The value propositon he is offering is antinomianism, and it sells like hot-cakes.

The Bible is unambiguous on this point of purity of thought, word and deed. "But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth." (Colossians 3:8). They just don't want to do it. And so hearing this, they embark on one of their romps through world history to discover whether everyone who ever lived has obeyed this rubric at all times. If not, why then, obviously, God never meant it, not seriously. This method of Bible-reading was invented by Robert Lewis Dabney; the verse he found inconvenient was Exodus 21:2, "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing." Far better just to do what He says and ask questions later.

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